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Gert Mint
#81 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:28:23 AM
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Eakes wrote:
Gert Mint wrote:
If I was an F1 driver, I'd probably move to another country. No way would I pay literally millions a year to a Government who can not look after their spending and fund wars like Iraq on the whim of a dumbass (in this case, Bush). My career doesn't last long, so I'd want to make damn sure I've got enough tucked away for the future.


So you disagree with Matthew 22 v 17-21 then kirbs? Interesting given that its Jesus' words, not mine ;-)


I don't see how that relates to Bush being a dumbass.
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#82 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:58:26 AM
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Didn't manage to catch the race unfortunately, but from what I understand one bloke led for virtually the whole race until his exhaust went a bit funny. He got overtaken by the person behind him who then won the race.

Obviously gutted to miss that spectacle!
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#83 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:42:11 PM
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With it being Mothers day I didn't catch any of the race. It was apparently pretty boring. Wasn't Schumacher complaining about all the rule changes ruining the sport?
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#84 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:57:54 PM
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It wasn't the most exciting race but I still enjoyed it.
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#85 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 3:17:14 PM
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RingofFire wrote:
It wasn't the most exciting race but I still enjoyed it.


It wasn't the best I thought once the fuel got lower then it was who could drive fastest, but just turned into a bit of a parade. From what I gather this was more down to the track not allowing easy overtaking and close following more than it being the way the season is likely to go. Of the top runners only Mclaren leapfrogged cars at the pit stops so it is very unlikely the excitment the fueling pit stops brought will be mirrored, but hopefully more overtaking will be seen. Sundays race was very poor for overtaking.

Anyone else think the points system is a bit OTT, alonso has 25 points already, before you would need 3 races to reach that mark, this in effect means that all the drivers below the top 5 teams, will not likely reach this points tally already, make sense!!! Lewis finished 2 places off of 1st yet is like 10 points away from Alonso already. If the cars even up a bit more this may increase incentive for cars to overtake, however if ferrari continue to dominate then they are likely to walk awy with the titles.
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#86 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 3:56:06 PM
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Gert Mint wrote:
My career doesn't last long, so I'd want to make damn sure I've got enough tucked away for the future.


Yeah, cos poor old Lewis Hamilton would probably go broke in a couple of years after retirement if it wasn't for the tax break he now enjoys.....
Only BCFA team to beat BSXI 4 times since 12th December 2009.....
RingofFire
#87 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:13:35 PM
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Crofty, it's designed to make winning more important. Drivers who were winning the championship may settle for 3rd in prev years, whereas this year they'll need to push for the win.
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#88 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:58:48 PM
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RingofFire wrote:
Crofty, it's designed to make winning more important. Drivers who were winning the championship may settle for 3rd in prev years, whereas this year they'll need to push for the win.


I know that and agree but that only works if cars a matched, meaning they can overtake, for example if this was last season when Brawn were on top, then Jenson would of had over 100 points after 5 races, he didn't get 100 points the old way after 17.

I just feel it will only work if a team aren't dominant if Ferrari do a Brawn and dominate the early part of the season then can't see it being that great an incentive if the incentive is unobtainable.

Lewis battled to third with a car which isn't quite there but is now 10 points off of Alonso, who really cruised to victory, last year that would have been 4 points, that is quite a difference.
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RingofFire
#89 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 5:11:42 PM
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Ferrari are ahead at the moment but Red Bull aren't that far behind. And McLaren are not far behind them. I think it will be even in a few races and circuits will be alot more exciting than Bahrain.
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#90 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 7:19:59 PM
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Don't people think the 'sport' would be much more exciting if everybody drove the same cars?
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#91 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:10:32 PM
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Davo1 wrote:
Don't people think the 'sport' would be much more exciting if everybody drove the same cars?


Yes but even the same cars aren't the same all the time, i.e Hamilton finished 3rd, Button 7th.
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#92 Posted : Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:18:27 PM
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That's my point: if everyone is driving the same cars then it simply becomes a test of a driver's ability. Obviously it would mean that the manufacturers wouldn't be involved anymore, but each team could still generate significant amounts of sponsorship to make it worthwhile and I think that the fans would flock to watch races where, by and large, the best driver will win most of the time.
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#93 Posted : Wednesday, March 17, 2010 6:54:08 PM
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Davo1 wrote:
That's my point: if everyone is driving the same cars then it simply becomes a test of a driver's ability. Obviously it would mean that the manufacturers wouldn't be involved anymore, but each team could still generate significant amounts of sponsorship to make it worthwhile and I think that the fans would flock to watch races where, by and large, the best driver will win most of the time.


It's called A1GP and its the biggest flop in motorsport, the whole point of F1 is the teams/technology, (drivers to a lesser extent) which is often why I bore people at dinner parties with my explanation of the Continuously Variable Transmission (said in the most nerdie voice you can muster).

I have found that Lewis Hamilton (and Button last year) seem to have brought a lot of new people to the sport, who see video's of outragous moves from past year. A few reasons why it doesn't happen (in my opinion) Drivers are so much more fitter, and focused on doing a job, which means they make very few mistakes allowing others to pass. Tracks are now far safer, Drivers can push the car pass the laws of physics without worrying about killing themselves. (Schmacher used his car on two separate occasions in the 90's to try/take another car out). Finally Laws of F1 are now so precise, it leaves a very narrow area of development for the tech guys (not the PC World ones) to exploit. Bernie Ecclestone's team once developed a Fan which meant they went from the back of the grid to the front in one race (it was banned for the race after that).

Picking up on a previous point Re tax: Lewis is following in a long line of F1 drivers who have left their home nation, even if he stayed in the UK with the amount of cash he has, he could pay a good enough account to ensure he doesn't pay a much as he should (all legal of course). P.S. who would want to pay 50% of their wages in tax, regardless of what you earn?

Eakes
#94 Posted : Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:51:24 PM
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Nailseagk wrote:
P.S. who would want to pay 50% of their wages in tax, regardless of what you earn?



A good citizen? Plenty of people here earn millions and pay their taxes.
RingofFire
#95 Posted : Wednesday, March 17, 2010 11:25:55 PM
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Davo1 wrote:
That's my point: if everyone is driving the same cars then it simply becomes a test of a driver's ability. Obviously it would mean that the manufacturers wouldn't be involved anymore, but each team could still generate significant amounts of sponsorship to make it worthwhile and I think that the fans would flock to watch races where, by and large, the best driver will win most of the time.


You've missed my point. I think Hamilton is a better driver than Button but he finished that far ahead of him because his car is better.
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#96 Posted : Monday, March 29, 2010 12:15:24 PM
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Great win for Jenson this week. He called it right and got rewarded. Gutted fot Lewis as he was flying and pit call was wrong in hindsight. Although I think McLaren and everyonme else at the time thought, Kubica and the ferraris would pit and had they Lewis would have had a very comfortable 2nd. I think Jenson would have won this race as Red bull struggle with tyres and I expect Vettel would have pitted again and nobody bar perhaps lewis look like they would have caught him.

Shuts a few people up that thought Jenson would get blown away by Hamilton also shows that Jenson gained a lot of respect from Mclaren this week with his experience and guts to make a call, as where Lewis (who I love as well) as probablt lost some respect.

Alonso's drive though from last to 4th has to be noted he is looking very good for the title.
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RingofFire
#97 Posted : Monday, April 05, 2010 11:52:50 PM
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Really enjoyed the race on sunday. Hamilton did really well to get to 6th, shame he couldn't quite get past Sutil. If Vettel's car gets more reliable then surely he's favourite for the title at the moment, he prob would have won all 3 races if it weren't for mechanical issues. Still, it's nice and close between the top 7 drivers - only 9 points!
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Gert Mint
#98 Posted : Tuesday, April 06, 2010 8:48:59 AM
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RingofFire wrote:
Really enjoyed the race on sunday. Hamilton did really well to get to 6th, shame he couldn't quite get past Sutil. If Vettel's car gets more reliable then surely he's favourite for the title at the moment, he prob would have won all 3 races if it weren't for mechanical issues. Still, it's nice and close between the top 7 drivers - only 9 points!


Well good race, thanks to the rain in qualifying. Agree Vettel will get the title if they sort reliability out. I wonder if Schumy's regretting his come-back yet.
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#99 Posted : Monday, April 19, 2010 2:27:46 PM
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Great 1-2 for Britain and McLaren. Fantasy team was so bad due to weather!

Pos C Manager Team Total Pts. League Pos
1 Mr DANIEL FLYNN LIGHTENING MCLAREN 198 4191
2 * Mr DANIEL FLYNN FLYNNDAWG F1 195 4658
3 Mr John Kirby FERBULL 172 10069
4 Mr Andrew Coombs BRITISH BULLDOGS 158 14127
5 Mr John Kirby MCLEWIS GP 154 15277
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#100 Posted : Monday, April 19, 2010 2:41:51 PM
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RingofFire wrote:
Great 1-2 for Britain, Switzerland and McLaren.


Corrected for you Wink
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